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Post by duece » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:19 pm

The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:

1. The Discovery Channel and it’s affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn’s “My Ishmael” pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other’s inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!

2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn’t, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??

5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)

6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don’t build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!

7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people’s brains until they get it!!

8. Saving the Planet means saving what’s left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You’re the media, you can reach enough people. It’s your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!

9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.

10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!

11. You’re also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.
Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what’s left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.
For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human’s lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!

It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It’s like a couple are having 30 babies even though it’s just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!

Also, war must be halted. Not because it’s morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!

The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

The humans? The planet does not need humans.

You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!

I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.

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Re: WAKE UP PEOPLE

Post by McGrod » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:00 pm

I have a new found respect for you not that i disrespected you in the first place ofcourse.

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Post by MadAce » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:02 pm

duece... You know, it's pretty amazing how many kinds of nutcases there are. So my next question is logical:

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

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Post by MadAce » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:05 pm

Ah, now I get it. It's the wacko manifesto of the guy who took hostages at Discovery.

Sad, pathetic person he is. :roll:

What an idiot.

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Post by kenoneill » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:13 pm

MadAce wrote:Ah, now I get it. It's the wacko manifesto of the guy who took hostages at Discovery.

Sad, pathetic person he is. :roll:

What an idiot.
/agree
i wonder how long he was planning on keeping the hostages

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Post by CrazyChef » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:25 pm

Enjoy George Carlin!

And I quote without any kind of express permission:

We’re so self-important. So self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these hugging people kidding me? Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven’t learned how to care for one another, we’re gonna save the hugging planet?

I’m getting tired of that BBQ. Tired of that BBQ. I’m tired of hugging Earth Day, I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a BBQ about the planet. They don’t care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.

Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are hugged. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We’ve been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we’ve only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we’re a threat? That somehow we’re gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that’s just a-floatin’ around the sun?

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles…hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages…And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet…the planet…the planet isn’t going anywhere. WE ARE!

We’re going away. Pack your BBQ, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance.

You wanna know how the planet’s doing? Ask those people at Pompeii, who are frozen into position from volcanic ash, how the planet’s doing. You wanna know if the planet’s all right, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. Or how about those people in Kilowaia, Hawaii, who built their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have lava in the living room.

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new pardigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?” Plastic…chia pet.

So, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now. And I think that’s begun. Don’t you think that’s already started? I think, to be fair, the planet sees us as a mild threat. Something to be dealt with. And the planet can defend itself in an organized, collective way, the way a beehive or an ant colony can. A collective defense mechanism. The planet will think of something. What would you do if you were the planet? How would you defend yourself against this troublesome, pesky species? Let’s see… Viruses. Viruses might be good. They seem vulnerable to viruses. And, uh…viruses are tricky, always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed. Perhaps, this first virus could be one that compromises the immune system of these creatures. Perhaps a human immunodeficiency virus, making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and infections that might come along. And maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to engage in the act of reproduction.

Well, that’s a poetic note. And it’s a start. And I can dream, can’t I? See I don’t worry about the little things: bees, trees, whales, snails. I think we’re part of a greater wisdom than we will ever understand. A higher order. Call it what you want. Know what I call it? The Big Electron. The Big Electron…whoooa. Whoooa. Whoooa. It doesn’t punish, it doesn’t reward, it doesn’t judge at all. It just is. And so are we. For a little while.

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Re: WAKE UP PEOPLE

Post by -PLAGUE- » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:45 pm

this topic contains...way too much to read, not to mention at the sight of discovery channel i instantaneously fell victim to boredom..
Wootz!

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Post by MadAce » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:53 pm

I too like George Carlin, but the thing with comedians is that they're often more interested in saying something that sounds right rather than saying something that IS right.

Allow me to offer a few points in reply to what he said.


With great power comes great responsibility. And we have great power. We humans have the power to destroy all life on Earth. In 4 billion years Earth has been hit by a lot of disasters, but never has life been eradicated. But we can. And it would only take us a few hours.

The reason why we need to take care of the environment is because we need it to be in good shape. The healthier the environment, the healthier we are. It's that simple.

The planet could survive us, if we don't go out of our way to destroy it, sure. But tell that to all the species we've made extinct. We're talking a species a day. And that's just accidentally, we're not trying to kill any species. Those species are not coming back. And the only ones who can make them come back, if it's at all possible, are the humans.

Not only that, but we're the planet's only defense against meteorites. Think about it.

Contrary to what Mr. Carlin thinks the planet isn't conscious, we are. What makes us instantly the most important beings in the whole universe.
While reading up on the Gaia hypothesis he should've read a little more than just the back-flap.

-PLAGUE- wrote:this topic contains...way too much to read, not to mention at the sight of discovery channel i instantaneously fell victim to boredom..
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Post by duece » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:22 pm

I like to think that in however many thousand years it takes for us to colonize space and harvest the solar energy from so many stars that the earth becomes irrelevant, someone will go back with a naive romanticized image of what earth was and clean it up. Restore it to what we should have maintained it as all along.

Once all the human infant filth is gone of course.

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Post by salligator » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:05 pm

I'm worried about duece, and
MadAce wrote:
-PLAGUE- wrote:this topic contains...way too much to read, not to mention at the sight of discovery channel i instantaneously fell victim to boredom..
Wootz!
Don't ever vote.
QFT

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Post by JuliusCaesar » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:12 pm

Lol or deuce is the wacko hostage taker :D

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Post by McGrod » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:32 am

nature guy Attenbouroghgheoeur -- the english guy who wishpers.
sais mankind is about to plummet very fast very quickly due to over poplation and pollution. Umm would show the page from the CIA that sais we screwed but in there usual helpful fashion they deleted it :( .

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Post by GRAWRG. » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:22 pm

MadAce wrote:
-PLAGUE- wrote:this topic contains...way too much to read, not to mention at the sight of discovery channel i instantaneously fell victim to boredom..
Wootz!
Don't ever vote.
that made my day better.

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Post by awesomepebble » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:26 am

-PLAGUE- wrote:this topic contains...way too much to read, not to mention at the sight of discovery channel i instantaneously fell victim to boredom..
Wootz!

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Post by WeGotDeathStar » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:43 am

duece wrote:The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:

1. The Discovery Channel and it’s affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn’s “My Ishmael” pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other’s inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!

2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn’t, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??

5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)

6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don’t build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!

7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people’s brains until they get it!!

8. Saving the Planet means saving what’s left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You’re the media, you can reach enough people. It’s your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!

9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.

10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!

11. You’re also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.
Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what’s left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.
For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human’s lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!

It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It’s like a couple are having 30 babies even though it’s just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!

Also, war must be halted. Not because it’s morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!

The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

The humans? The planet does not need humans.

You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!

I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.

That's someone else's words not yours deuce. Some call that plagiarism.

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Post by FortyTwoAxes » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:11 pm

the life of a plastic bag :0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLgh9h2ePYw

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Post by MegaMan » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:51 am

MadAce wrote:I too like George Carlin, but the thing with comedians is that they're often more interested in saying something that sounds right rather than saying something that IS right.

Allow me to offer a few points in reply to what he said.


With great power comes great responsibility. And we have great power. We humans have the power to destroy all life on Earth. In 4 billion years Earth has been hit by a lot of disasters, but never has life been eradicated. But we can. And it would only take us a few hours.

The reason why we need to take care of the environment is because we need it to be in good shape. The healthier the environment, the healthier we are. It's that simple.

The planet could survive us, if we don't go out of our way to destroy it, sure. But tell that to all the species we've made extinct. We're talking a species a day. And that's just accidentally, we're not trying to kill any species. Those species are not coming back. And the only ones who can make them come back, if it's at all possible, are the humans.

Not only that, but we're the planet's only defense against meteorites. Think about it.

Contrary to what Mr. Carlin thinks the planet isn't conscious, we are. What makes us instantly the most important beings in the whole universe.
While reading up on the Gaia hypothesis he should've read a little more than just the back-flap.
Articulated very well what I was thinking while reading Carlin.
duece wrote:I like to think that in however many thousand years it takes for us to colonize space and harvest the solar energy from so many stars that the earth becomes irrelevant, someone will go back with a naive romanticized image of what earth was and clean it up. Restore it to what we should have maintained it as all along.
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Post by McGrod » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:32 pm

a very bold statement 'the planet is not conscious'.

Trust me it is.

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Post by Moleman » Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:15 pm

Cloud1 wrote:When Technology becomes costless. We could be on mars, and traveling through space.

But the problem with that is Technology for war would be unlimited with man power.
I'm not being rude as English obviously is not your first language but no matter how many times I read your last post I still have no idea what you are trying to say, especially the last sentence.

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Post by McGrod » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:23 am

I think it means when we have a society not based on the current world economy then we will be able to achieve a lot more. The second sentence I translate as 'but because we are humans there will be people who make use of war to get to there own agenda.'
So technology will get far more advanced but so will the means of destroying ourselves.

If we were to make a system that would neutralise nukes/missiles plagues would be used more as a weapon...if we got to the stage of neutralising plagues then something else will take its place.
New technology = new horrors.

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Post by Saber-Fury » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:15 pm

Just to make it clear.. cuz most people don't seem to get it.. Deuce was just posting the hostage guys message from his website.. http://www.savetheplanetprotest.com/

Deuce is not a lunatic nor are these his ideas. It's also not plagiarism as the dude's stuff isn't copyrighted, and even if it was, he would be in no position to enforce the copyright, nor would anyone else care

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Post by MastrIan » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:57 am

Moleman wrote:
Cloud1 wrote:When Technology becomes costless. We could be on mars, and traveling through space.

But the problem with that is Technology for war would be unlimited with man power.
I'm not being rude as English obviously is not your first language but no matter how many times I read your last post I still have no idea what you are trying to say, especially the last sentence.

moleman
Waiting for a reply on Moleman's question, no idea what cloud1 was going for here, and I'm not positive but I think english is his first language.

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Post by CrazyChef » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:03 am

Moleman wrote:
Cloud1 wrote:When Technology becomes costless. We could be on mars, and traveling through space.

But the problem with that is Technology for war would be unlimited with man power.
I'm not being rude as English obviously is not your first language but no matter how many times I read your last post I still have no idea what you are trying to say, especially the last sentence.

moleman
Sorry, going to have to call you out on this one. lol
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