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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Barefoot » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:57 pm

Here are some possible dome locations for #'s 31-35 of the new lay-outs. I also did #51 to show another possible loc for the DT. Please remember that not all dome locations may be included - I'd love to see yours to compare! I'll edit this post as I create new ones, and I'll edit maps with your dome-locs, too, if I missed good ones.

EDIT: ADDED #36-50

#31
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This is, in my opinion, the deadliest lay-out. The dragon-tail is close, but dome location #1 is tough. I've seen #2, but it's not nearly as effective as #1. Concentrated or narrow solar works best.

#32
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I've only seen 2 locations used on this lay-out. Location #1 is my favorite, but #2 works ok on rockies.

#33
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I usually go for dome locs 1 or 3 here, as they make you go through one of the twisty, narrow sections. However, 2 works well as a nuke eater if you are looking for another option.

#34
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I'm less familiar with doming/invading this lay-out, but I've found that location #1 works as a nuke-eater, and works even better on low drag planets. For high drag planets, I like location #2 the best, and #3 second-best.

#35
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This lay-out is a tough invade when domed well. My favorite location is #1 on high-drag planets, with #2 as a good second-option. #3 is a choice spot on rockies as it takes forever to get in and out.

#36
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I've only seen 2 locations here. I've always stuck the dome in the top corner (spot #1) on low drag planets. On high drag planets, I invaded a particularly tough colony that had the dome placed at location #2. It had the main portion of its defenses concentrated above the dome blocking the easier cap run.

#37
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I don't have any real insight into this layout. These are the standard dome locations for most players. #1 is the ring method, and it works better than most rings, but it's still a noob-ring. Dome-locs 2 and 3 are the nuke eater spots.

#38
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This is a tricky colony to dome, IMO. Most newbs go for a ring with the dome next to it, but it's an easy take when they do. I recommend dome-locs 1 or 2, as you can put all your defenses right near the dome to maximize damage taken. Location 3 accomplishes the same thing, but it's an easier cap. Location #4 is about the same as 3, but a smidge harder cap run. If you have a weaker solar, go with #2. If you got a sick solar, go with #1

#39
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I call this one the yin-yang layout, but now that I view it zoomed way out, it might not be that. Either way: Most newer players stick the dome at location #1 and laser the warp. This keeps all but skilled invaders from bothering with it. I personally like location #2, as it allows the solar to cover the whole planet. Dome-locations 3 and 4 are other acceptable nuke eater spots.

#40
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I like dome-location #2 here the best because of the narrow entrance, and 3 also does the same thing (though most of the time location #3 has a ring at the warp). Location #1 is surprisingly more of a pain in the arse than it looks. As a nuke-eater, the lasers reach the warp, which causes more damage that expected. Also, many lasers must be killed at loc #1.

#41 - The Maze
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For this layout, there's 3 fairly good options. #2 is simply deadly with a high BPM solar. Locations 1 and 3 are good for low drag planets - and they generally eat more nukes

#42
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This layout is not one of my favorite, but these are the locs that I have used (and seen others use).

#43 - The Skull
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This one completely stumps me. I never end up doming this layout because I simply do not know where to put the dome. Any ideas?

#44
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I've only found 1 spot that can be defended well enough for me to dome the lay-out. It should be nuke-eater style, with all cannons by the dome.

#45
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On this layout, I prefer to dome at location #1. I don't bother with a ring, either. If you want to make a ring, I'd suggest doming at #2.

#46 - The Super-Tall
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If you plan to laser up the warp (defends similarly to superwide at warp), then make sure to dome at locs 1 or 2. If you don't want to use all your defenses at the warp, #3 works well as a nuke-eater and provides good solar coverage at warp.

#47
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There are many good spots here. I highlighted 5 of them. Locations 1 and 4 are very similar, and very effective if the solar is strong enough. It's a PITA to invade a high BPM solar at those locs. Location #5 is common, although I feel it's about as easy as #2 to invade. If you aren't going to have a tough solar (e.g. 5k pop dome), I'd go for location #3. It's a safe bet.

#48
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This planet type is almost always defended with a ring. The ring is tight, and the planet is small, so it's effective. It doesn't take too much brain power to figure out good dome-locs here. I personally like #2, but 1 works just fine.

#49
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I find this to be a more difficult planet to defend. It seems that location #1 is the most popular among new players, but it's not very strong with lasers at the warp - Pretty easy drop nuke job. I prefer to dome at location #2 and make the invader take some solar damage.

#50
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If you can get the placement correct on location #1, you can max the planet in front of the dome. This loc provides very good solar coverage getting in and out of the planet, and drop-nuking becomes useless after the first 1k tons or so, therefore making it fairly expensive to take. Loc #2 is the cop-out if you can't get the placement right on #1, but it's not a terrible loc.

#51 (DT)
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Location #1 is the standard for most players, but I think #2 is much deadlier.
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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by DirtMonitor » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:23 am

Ty for the new post

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by gamanche » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:51 pm

GOODJOB 420! DO THE REST :P

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Barefoot » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:17 pm

gamanche wrote:GOODJOB 420! DO THE REST :P
I've got the motivation, but I don't have the knowledge for all of them. Some of the lay-outs (skull one, for example) I don't have a clue on doming strategy. On those, it's an experiment every time. I'll work on some today, though.

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by gamanche » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:45 pm

I would make them all and do all my placements, but i dont know how to do them

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Barefoot » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:07 pm

gamanche wrote:I would make them all and do all my placements, but i dont know how to do them
Ain't hard. I copied and pasted into paint and used the paintbrush to make the numbers. Just gotta zoom in a bit.

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by gamanche » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:02 pm

420.. dome placement for planet 50.. is a great spot exactly to the left.. on the other side of wall, parrallel to warp

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by gamanche » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:20 pm

I actually looked at a lot of your placements, and i dislike a lot of them, and i find there are many better locations lol

ill do my own set soon and see whos is better! mahawwa

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Re: Black Hole Maps

Post by Draze » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:27 pm

is P5 still needed? I know all BH locations on that server

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Post by gamanche » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:53 pm

I think so

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Barefoot » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:58 pm

gamanche wrote:420.. dome placement for planet 50.. is a great spot exactly to the left.. on the other side of wall, parrallel to warp
I figured that spot would fit under 3k tons of turrets in front of it. Is it a lot better than fitting 5k tons in front of it?
gamanche wrote:I actually looked at a lot of your placements, and i dislike a lot of them, and i find there are many better locations lol

ill do my own set soon and see whos is better! mahawwa
Do your own! My spots are definitely not up to par on some lay-outs. I'd really like to see your picks, as they were usually better than mine in HC :oops:

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by gamanche » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:43 pm

Barefoot wrote:
gamanche wrote:420.. dome placement for planet 50.. is a great spot exactly to the left.. on the other side of wall, parrallel to warp
I figured that spot would fit under 3k tons of turrets in front of it. Is it a lot better than fitting 5k tons in front of it?
gamanche wrote:I actually looked at a lot of your placements, and i dislike a lot of them, and i find there are many better locations lol

ill do my own set soon and see whos is better! mahawwa
Do your own! My spots are definitely not up to par on some lay-outs. I'd really like to see your picks, as they were usually better than mine in HC :oops:
to your first question, yeah it could probably fit 3k or a bit more defences in front, but what about behind it? :P
the lazers behind the dome were always the problem for me :P

and yeah.. both are layouts were pretty good, i knew which layouts were harder to invade, and u knew how to build them and maintain them with high solars and stufff :) i will attempt to make some layouts of my own throughout the week at home

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Barefoot » Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:26 pm

gamanche wrote:i will attempt to make some layouts of my own throughout the week at home
Until you do, my spots rule. :D

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Mel'Kaven » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:46 am

#31
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One Extremely good spot is right below the warp 10/120 its BEAST :lol:

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by gamanche » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:40 pm

how can i get the picture like that.. mine doesnt zoom out or anything to see the whole thing.. :o

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Barefoot » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:19 am

gamanche wrote:how can i get the picture like that.. mine doesnt zoom out or anything to see the whole thing.. :o
All the pictures are on the first page of this thread. Copy, paist, paint, upload, post. Respectively, of course.

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by gamanche » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:13 pm

wow really, 69 planet layouts!?, this may take a while for me :P

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Barefoot » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:12 pm

gamanche wrote:wow really, 69 planet layouts!?, this may take a while for me :P
No sense in really worrying about the first 30 or so. Those are the old lay-outs that have been posted with dome locs many times. The new ones are the ones that need some possible locs.

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by gamanche » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:17 pm

I Will do them all hopefully.. and i will attempt to make it a whole new thread, since this one is too long and yeah...

i want everyone to know how superior i am :P

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

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gamanche wrote:I Will do them all hopefully.. and i will attempt to make it a whole new thread, since this one is too long and yeah...

i want everyone to know how superior i am :P
pphhhhhhhh

Just post'm here; that's what this thread is for. No need for your noob spam elsewhere too! :wink:

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by MutedJazz » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:31 pm

gamanche wrote:wow really, 69 planet layouts!?, this may take a while for me :P
Toonces, you dirty man. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Shadowshot.. » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:35 pm

Lmao toonces im sure that making 69 planet layouts was an accident

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by buggy » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:47 pm

i dont get it whats wrong with 69?also great job btw

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by MutedJazz » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:27 am

buggy wrote:i dont get it whats wrong with 69?also great job btw

:lol:
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Post by Mel'Kaven » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:43 am

dont spam like that u nubcake :x

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by MutedJazz » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:19 am

Who?

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by gamanche » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:20 pm

420, i havent worked on those pictures in like 3 weeks.. and i only have the 1st 7layouts done :P

im too lazy for I love puppies

ill probably get around to it within the next year though lol

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Barefoot » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:45 pm

Once you get going on them, you can knock'm all out quickly. It took me about an hour.

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Wagon » Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:39 pm

Barefoot wrote:Once you get going on them, you can knock'm all out quickly. It took me about an hour.
thats what she said

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Re: Planet Layouts(pictures)

Post by Barefoot » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:12 pm

Wagon wrote:
Barefoot wrote:Once you get going on them, you can knock'm all out quickly. It took me about an hour.
thats what she said
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